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“We need to be honest about this — and to say, ‘Gee, we’re No. 10, we’re going to get this built,’ you know, well that’s the ultimate goal, but honestly I don’t see it happening in the foreseeable future whether we’re 18 or 10 or whatever,” Fischer said.

Deb got it right. It literally means nothing until a plan is established.